The purpose of this blog is to bring glory to God. I am a redeemed child of God, doing the work of an evangelist. Articles posted will focus on Evangelism, Apologetics, Reformed Theology and other Christian Issues. My prayer is that you will find these postings both informative and edifying.
Sunday, 31 August 2008
My Road Trip With Justin Peters...
…to the airport and back.
Recently I had the great pleasure in meeting Justin Peters. God has set Justin apart for what I believe to be a very important ministry. Through great diligence and study Justin has prepared a critique of the Word of Faith movement (more commonly known as the Health and Wealth or Prosperity Gospel), a critique that is delivered in the form of a three session seminar which he has entitled A Call for Discernment.
On Tuesday of this week I received a phone call from Cameron Buettel. Cameron is a friend of Josh Williamson, president for Operation 513. Cameron had relayed to Josh that Justin was in England for a television debate and was due to fly out to Denmark as soon as that debate was finished. Unfortunately Justin was having some logistical problems and needed transport to Stansted Airport for his flight to Denmark. Josh mentioned to Cameron that possibly I could help and so hence the reason for the call I received. I was successful in contacting Justin and after talking with him briefly I arranged to pick him up after the debate in order to drive him to the airport.
We had a wonderful time together during the drive there and spoke about a number of different things, as you can imagine. It was particularly interesting for me to speak with Justin as it was only a few years ago that the Lord very graciously opened my eyes to the dangers and pitfalls of the Word of Faith movement. I had not only been someone caught up in the movement, I was an active proponent of its teachings! I am so grateful to the Lord that He has delivered me from its deception and heresy.
Justin’s seminar is now on DVD and I would strongly recommend that you purchase a copy so that you can benefit from the invaluable content that it presents. As Cameron has written in a post on his blog, Justin is a man of great integrity and humility, particularly in light of the fact that he suffers with a difficult physical disability (cerebral palsy). In spite of his disability he works tirelessly to proclaim the truth of God’s Word so that the lost may be saved and the saints equipped.
Below is a video clip from a show called Wretched, in which Todd Friel (host of Way of the Master Radio) interviews Justin concerning the Word of Faith movement. This short clip is certainly worth watching.
You can also watch a 30 min introductory video to the seminar by clicking on this link. In addition, click here if you would like to purchase the 2 disc DVD 4 hours teaching for just £16.00.
Thursday, 28 August 2008
Operation 513 London: Leicester Square & The Notting Hill Carnival (22nd - 23rd Aug 2008)



As soon as I was down I made my way over to a young couple who I noticed had been listening to my message. I got talking with Mark and his girlfriend Danielle and we spoke for about an hour. We covered much as they had many questions. One particular question they asked was centred on knowing which religion was the right one. This allowed me to comprehensively share the whole counsel of God with them so that they could see that there is only one mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus (1 Tim. 2:5). They took a Bible to share and some tracts and we also exchanged contact details. I have since written them an email and so do pray that they would write back so that we can continue where we left off.
We left about 11:30pm, which is more or less the time we need to leave as we have to catch the tube home. It had been a somewhat frustrating evening, however many tracts had gone out and I was particularly grateful to the Lord for the conversation I’d had with Mark and Danielle. Do pray for them. After talking it through we have decided to cut back our ministry on the Saturday at Tooting Broadway to once every two weeks. This is simply down to the practicalities of life I’m afraid. As it happened I was contacted about a week ago by a man named Michael who attends a Calvary Chapel church in London. Every year his church does an outreach at the Notting Hill Carnival. The carnival involves marches and parades and so forth. There is always loud music and much food and drink. There is also a great deal of lasciviousness that goes on and so I have avoided it for obvious reasons. However, there are simply thousands and thousands of people who attend and so there is no better place to go if you’re looking for people to witness to. My only gripe is that the music is incredibly loud and so it can be somewhat of an obstacle when talking to someone. I had been contacted after Michael had seen my blog. He wanted to know whether my team and I could attend their outreach to give a helping hand. Of course I was quite willing to do so, and so Carl, my brother James and I headed up there Saturday afternoon. The area they use is the same each year and has come to be known as “The God Corner.” During our time there we spoke with as many people as we could. The music was quite deafening so we did our best! Michael and those from his church were handing out tracts and talking with people as well. In addition his church had set up a stage and where they had performers who rapped and sang Christian songs. It was certainly different to what I am used to.
I was asked to come up on stage to deliver a gospel message, and so I preached a solid message for about twenty minutes or so. I did not offer an alter call but urged those who did not know the Lord to come to Him in repentance and faith. Please pray that the seed fell on good soil. So in the end a packed weekend of ministry. Praise the Lord that we are privileged to serve Him by sharing the gospel with others.
Soli Deo Gloria!
Wednesday, 27 August 2008
Petition To Free Pastor Bike
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Pastor Bike standing with Anna, an orphaned Christian girl also persecuted by the Chinese government. | |
Pastor Bike, as he is affectionately known, is considered to be one of the most outspoken evangelists in China. He is a bold believer willing to cross borders, hand out Christian literature and Bibles, share Christ with those under age 18 and lead thousands to Christ. All these actions are considered "illegal" in communist China. On August 6, just two days before the Olympics began, Pastor Zhang "Bike" Mingxuan was arrested, along with his wife and a coworker. In response to these arrests, The Voice of the Martyrs and China Aid Association have launched a petition drive to free these three Christians and to let the Chinese government know that the world is aware that these Christians are being detained. Together, our voice can make a difference. Please follow the link below to learn more, and please forward this email to your friends. | |
Tuesday, 26 August 2008
Turn Or Burn
The following is an excerpt from a sermon Charles Haddon Spurgeon once preached entitled “Turn or Burn.” It was preached at The Music Hall, Royal Surrey Gardens, 7th December, 1856. The text he used for this message was: “If a man does not repent, God will whet his sword; he has bent and readied his bow.” (Psalm 7:12). Consider the date this message was preached. It is frightening to think considering the church today. He fought tooth and nail against the downgrade controversy. He was vocal against those who downgraded God's Word. Hey, it won't win you any friends, but then did we not consider the cost when we said yes to His call?God has a sword, and he will punish man on account of his iniquity. This evil generation hath laboured to take away from God the sword of his justice; they have endeavoured to prove themselves that God will "clear the guilty," and will by no means "punish iniquity, transgression and sin." Two hundred years ago the predominant strain of the pulpit was one of terror: it was like Mount Sinai, it thundered forth the dreadful wrath of God, and from the lips of a Baxter or a Bunyan, you heard most terrible sermons, full to the brim with warnings of judgment to come. Perhaps some of the Puritanic fathers may have gone too far, and have given too great a prominence to the terrors of the Lord in their ministry: but the age in which we live has sought to forget those terrors altogether, and if we dare to tell men that God will punish them for their sins, it is charged upon us that we want to bully them into religion, and if we faithfully and honestly tell our hearers that sin must bring after it certain destruction, it is said that we are attempting to frighten them into goodness. Now we care not what men mockingly impute to us; we feel it our duty, when men sin, to tell them they shall be punished, and so long as the world will not give up its sin we feel we must not cease our warnings. But the cry of the age is, that God is merciful, that God is love. Ay; who said he was not? But remember, it is equally true, God is just, severely and inflexibly just. He were not God, if he were not just; he could not be merciful if he were not just.
Sunday, 24 August 2008
The Road To Unity
There has perhaps never been a time in the history of the church in which we see a church so diverse, so distinctly different in its make-up and practise. We see bodies of churches gathered together, different from other bodies of churches gathered together. We hear of this movement and that movement, we see this interpretation and that interpretation, all different and yet all based on the teaching of the same book, the Bible. Church leaders applaud, believing that variety is the spice of life and therefore exuberant that the church demonstrates to the world how it should be done. Yet Scripture exhorts the church to be of one mind, to walk in unity. Unity does not exist when people do not believe the same thing. Union is the result of joining together people or things to form a whole, regardless of what they believe. This is not unity. There is much union in the church today and little unity. Can real unity ever permeate the church? Can Christians be of the same mind? Are we exhorted to do something that simply cannot be done?There are churches today that teach much of what we see in the Word, but they betray their commitment to preach the Word and the Word only when, for example, they maintain that Scripture allows for women to be ordained as pastors, elders and deacons. If it were possible for a woman to be the husband of one wife (1 Tim. 3:2, 12) then perhaps we could agree with this assertion, however, Scripture makes it clear that this is not the case. This is just one area where we see a liberal underpinning that is injected into church doctrine.
What is needed today? A commitment to the Word. A desire to examine ourselves and test all things. If we walk in step with the Spirit and exegete Scripture rightly then we will walk in unity, we will be of one mind. Is Scripture "open to interpretation?" Yes and no. It is open to interpretation in so much that we all have the freedom to interpret it. However, if we love the Lord we are duty bound to interpret it rightly (2 Tim. 2:15). We ought to bear in mind that the Bible only says what it says. In a question and answer session with Grace Community Church in California, John MacArthur was asked this question: “How do we understand that so many Spirit-filled and studious men come up with so many different doctrines?” In other words, why do good men disagree, if the Spirit of God is our teacher? John gives four reasons, and I think they are quite helpful to us.
1) None of us are perfect so we will all have errors somewhere. No one person is the repository of all divine truth. All of us, to some extent, are made incapacitated because of our humanness.
2) There are disagreements because of our backgrounds and presuppositions.
3) Many good men don’t dig deep enough.
4) Some texts are obscure and difficult to interpret, and since you can’t be utterly dogmatic about them there is room for latitude at that point.
John goes on to say, “However, those who represent the Word of God and believe the Word of God as the Word of God and do teach the Word of God and love the Lord Jesus Christ; they will have differences, but they will inevitably be peripheral differences. The core of God’s revealed truth will be proclaimed.”
A comforting answer and a good answer. And yet we would all agree that the ideal would be that we would agree on every point of Scripture. It could well be said that there are some points that unfortunately we may never come to agreement upon, for e.g. the author of the book of Hebrews. Some may be convinced that it is the apostle Paul; others may be convinced it is Peter or one of the other apostles. Can we be definitive in our answer? No, we do not have enough information. On peripheral issues such as these, we simply have to agree to disagree. Yet all of this begs the question. Who determines what is peripheral and what is not? Where do we draw the line? Well, I think we simply have to use some common sense and exercise proper judgment. Diligent study of God’s Word will bring us to the same conclusions. This is the effort we must put in so that we can walk in unity. The apostle Paul wrote, “Therefore I, the prisoner of the Lord, implore you to walk in a manner worthy of the calling with which you have been called, with all humility and gentleness, with patience, showing tolerance for one another in love, being diligent to preserve the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace (Ephesians 4:1-3 NASB).
My good friend Kevin Williams posted on his blog not that long ago something Charles Spurgeon once said: “We have nowadays around us a class of men who preach Christ, and even preach the gospel; but then they preach a great deal else which is not true, and thus they destroy the good of all that they deliver, and lure men to error.” The cost of not walking in unity is high. Walking in a manner worthy of our calling covers many facets. We are to show tolerance for one another, pray for one another, we are to be gentle, patient and loving. But it does not end there. We are called to live the truth and we are called to love the truth. If we love the truth we will fight for the truth. We will do our best to study the Word rightly so that we are one approved before our God and so that we can walk in harmony with our brothers and sisters in Christ, who are students of His Word in the very same way that we are.
Saturday, 23 August 2008
Friday, 22 August 2008
A Careful Look At The Position Of Annihilationism

“John 3:16 is clear that we may have life or we may die ... perish. The alternative is not misery, but death ... non-existence ... burning to nothing (not to agony) in the fire that never ends. Those that receive the punishment will be no more ... having not known that they have received it or received it not - for they have ‘perished.’”
The position being described here is a position known as annihilationism. It advocates that sinners are destroyed rather than tormented forever in hell. Yet we do not see this in Scripture. In fact there are countless verses that tell us unless we repent and believe the gospel we will be thrown into hell. We also read that we will be sentenced to hell (Matthew 23:33). Now, consider for a minute what this is saying. It is saying that we will be sentenced to hell. The word "sentence" has to deal with punishment. Hell is a place of punishment; it is not a place that receives people who are then subsequently annihilated.
The following is an article my pastor has very kindly sent to me after I spoke with him last night concerning this issue. It is a review of evangelical annihilationism written by J.I. Packer. I have found it to be most helpful and I’m sure you will too (be aware it is quite an extensive review!).
James I. Packer
Evangelicalism is variously defined by various people. I define it as the religion of Trinitarian Bible-believers who glory in Christ's Cross as the only source of peace with God and seek to share their faith with others; and I note that in the West (to look no further) evangelicalism, like Protestant liberalism, Roman Catholicism of all stripes, and Eastern Orthodoxy, has a communal mindset of its own. Factors shaping that mindset during the past half-century include the dogmatic, devotional, apologetic and activist nurture given in evangelical churches and parachurch movements; the reading matter (books, journals, magazines) that evangelicals produce for each other; the feeling of superior faithfulness to the Bible, its God and its Christ, which evangelical institutions cultivate; a sense of being threatened by the big battalions of the liberal Protestant, Roman Catholic, and American secular establishments, leading to bluster when these ideological power bases are discussed; a passion for effective evangelism; and an idealizing of scholars and leaders as gurus, whence a sense of betrayal and outrage surfaces if any of these are felt to be stepping out of line. Within the distinctive corporate identity of evangelicalism an awareness of privilege and vocation, a siege mentality, a low flashpoint in debate, a certain verbal violence, and a tendency to shoot our own wounded — all obtrude.
Whether the movement's recent recovery of confidence and burgeoning intellectual life1 are mellowing this raw mindset is not yet clear; certainly, however, the rigidities hinted at above have been apparent as evangelicals have intramurally debated annihilationism during the past ten years.
Annihilationist ideas have been canvassed among evangelicals for more than a century,2 but they never became part of the mainstream of evangelical faith,3 nor have they been widely discussed in the evangelical camp until recently. In 1987 Clark Pinnock authored a punchy two-page article titled "Fire, Then Nothing,"4 but this, though widely read, did not spark debate, any more than the 500-page exposition of the same view, The Fire That Consumes (1982) by the gifted Churches of Christ layman Edward William Fudge, had done.5 In 1988, however, two brief pieces of advocacy came from Anglican evangelical veterans: eight pages by John Stott in Essentials,6 and ten by the late Philip Edgecumbe Hughes in The True Image.7 These put the cat among the pigeons.
At Evangelical Essentials, a conference of 350 leaders held at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School, Deerfield, Illinois, in 1989, I read a paper portentously titled "Evangelicals and the Way of Salvation: New Challenges to the Gospel: Universalism and Justification by Faith."8 In that paper I offered a line of thought countering the view of these two respected friends.9 It turned out that the conference was split down the middle over the annihilation question. The Christianity Today report said:
Strong disagreements did surface over the position of annihilationism, a view that holds that unsaved souls will cease to exist after death . . . the conference was almost evenly divided as to how to deal with the issue in the affirmations statement, and no renunciation of the position was included in the draft document.10
After this, at the request of John White, then president of National Association of Evangelicals, the late John Gerstner wrote a response to Stott, Hughes and Fudge under the title Repent or Perish (1990);11 and in 1992 the papers read at the fourth Edinburgh Conference on Christian Dogmatics came into print as Universalism and the Doctrine of Hell.12 Included were John W. Wenham, "The Case for Conditional Immortality," and Kendall S. Harmon, "The Case Against Conditionalism: A Response to Edward William Fudge."
Nor was this all. Semipopular books reaffirming the reality and endlessness of hell began to flow: Ajith Fernando, Crucial Questions About Hell (1991);13 Eryl Davies, An Angry God? (1991);14 Larry Dixon, The Other Side of the Good News (1992);15 William Crockett, John Walvoord, Zachary Hayes and Clark Pinnock, Four Views on Hell (1992);16 David Pawson, The Road to Hell (1992);17 John Blanchard, Whatever Happened to Hell? (1993);18 David George Moore, The Battle for Hell: A Survey and Evaluation of Evangelicals' Growing Attraction to the Doctrine of Annihilationism (1995);19 Robert A. Peterson, Hell on Trial: The Case for Eternal Punishment (1995).20 All these books argue more or less elaborately against annihilationism. The debate continues.
What is at issue? The question is essentially exegetical, though with theological and pastoral implications. It boils down to whether, when Jesus said that those banished at the final judgment will "go away into eternal punishment" (Matt. 25:46), He envisaged a state of penal pain that is endless, or an ending of conscious existence that is irrevocable: that is (for this is how the question is put), a punishment that is eternal in its length or in its effect. Mainstream Christianity has always affirmed the former, and still does; evangelical annihilationists unite with many Jehovah's Witnesses, Seventh-day Adventists and liberals — just about all, indeed, who are not universalists — to affirm the latter. Beyond this point, however, evangelical annihilationists have fanned out, and there is no unanimity.21
Some have maintained that the snuffing-out will occur immediately upon Jesus' sentence at the final judgment, following Dives-like penal pain in the pre-resurrection interim state; others have thought that each person banished from Jesus' presence will then undergo some penal pain, doubtless graded in intensity and length in light of personal desert, before the moment of extinction comes. Some base their annihilationism on an adjusted anthropology. They urge that endless existence is natural to nobody; on the contrary, since we were created as psycho-physical units, that is, personal selves (souls) living through bodies, disembodiment must terminate consciousness. So after our initial disembodiment (the first death) there is no interim state, only an unconsciousness that continues until we are reembodied on Resurrection Day, and after resurrected unbelievers are banished from Christ their consciousness will finally cease (the second death) when, and because, their resurrection body ceases to be. Some who reason thus, however, do in fact affirm a conscious interim state, with joy for saints and sorrow for sinners, as the general consensus in the church seems always to have done. All who embrace this adjusted anthropology call their view conditional immortality, a phrase coined to make the point that the postmortem continuance that religions envisage and most if not all desire, is a gift that God gives only to Christian believers, while sooner or later He simply extinguishes the rest of our race. Ongoing existence is thus conditional upon faith in Jesus Christ, and annihilation is the universal alternative.22
Historically, these are nineteenth-century views. The nineteenth century was an era of bold challenges to past assumptions, bold dreams of things made better, and bold enterprise, both intellectual and technological, to bring this about. Historic Christian teaching about hell was called in question in light of the utilitarian and progressive conviction that retribution alone, with no prospect of anything or anyone being improved by it, is in no case a sufficient justification for punishment, let alone unending punishment. From this it seemed to follow that the idea of God maintaining anyone in permanent postmortem pain was unworthy of Him, and therefore the traditional view of eternal punishment must be abandoned, and another way of explaining the texts that appear to teach it must be found. Bible-believing revisionists developed two ways of doing this, both essentially speculative in the manner of Origen, who looked to currently established philosophy to fix the frame for interpreting texts and to fill gaps in what the texts teach. The first way was universalism, which says that all the humans there are will finally be in heaven, and speculates as to how through painful experiences those who die in unbelief will get there. The second way was annihilationism, which says that those in heaven will finally be all the humans there are, and speculates as to when unbelievers are extinguished. The arguments used by today's evangelical annihilationists are essentially no different from those of their last-century predecessors.
Two theological and pastoral caveats must precede our review of these arguments.
1) Views about hell should not be discussed outside the frame of the Gospel. Why not? Because it is only in connection with the Gospel that Jesus and the New Testament writers speak of hell, and the biblical way of treating biblical themes is in their biblical connections as well as in their biblical substance. As Peter Toon observes,
. . . the preaching and teaching of Jesus concerning Gehenna, darkness, and damnation were in the context of His proclamation and exposition of the kingdom of God, salvation, and eternal life; they were never proposed as independent topics for reflection and study. This latter point has been much emphasized by distinguished theologians.23 . . . [Hell] is part of the whole gospel and thus cannot be left out. . . . To warn people to avoid hell means that hell is a reality, or can be a reality. Thus it is unavoidable that we offer a tentative description of hell at least in terms of the poena damni (pain of loss of the beatific vision) and possibly of the poena census (pain of sense, i.e., via the senses) but . . . recognize always that we are speaking figuratively.24
The Christian idea of hell is not a freestanding concept of pain for pain's sake (the divine "savagery" and "sadism" and "cruelty" and "vindictiveness" that annihilationists accuse believers in an unending hell of asserting25), but a Gospel-formed notion of three coordinate miseries, namely, exclusion from God's gracious presence and fellowship, in punishment and with destruction, being visited on those whose negativity towards God's humbling mercies has already excluded the Father and the Son from their hearts. The justice of God's final judgment, which Jesus will administer, according to the Gospel, lies in two things: first, the fact that what people receive is not only what they deserve but that they have in effect already chosen — namely, to be forever without God and therefore without any of the good that He gives; second, the fact that the sentence is proportioned to the knowledge of God's Word, work and will that was actually disregarded (cf. Luke 12:42-48; Rom. 1:18-20, 32; 2:4, 12-15). Hell, according to the Gospel, is not immoral ferocity but moral retribution, and discussions of its length for its inmates must proceed within that frame.
2) Views about hell should not be determined by considerations of comfort. Said John Wenham: "Beware of the immense natural appeal of any way out that evades the idea of everlasting sin and suffering. The temptation to twist what may be quite plain statements of Scripture is intense. It is the ideal situation for unconscious rationalizing."26 Said John Stott:
Emotionally, I find the concept [of eternal conscious torment] intolerable and do not understand how people can live with it without either cauterising their feelings or cracking under the strain. But our emotions are a fluctuating, unreliable guide to truth and must not be exalted to the place of supreme authority in determining it . . . my question must be — and is — not what does my heart tell me, but what does God's word say?27
Both men adopted annihilationism, in which they may be wrong, but they embraced it for the right reason — not because it fitted into their comfort zone, though it did, but because they thought they found it in the Bible. Whatever our view on the question, we too must be guided by Scripture, and nothing else.
The Arguments for Annihilationism
1) The first argument is of necessity an attempt to explain "eternal punishment" in Matthew 25:46, where it is parallel to the phrase "eternal life," as not necessarily carrying the implication of endlessness. Granted that, as is rightly urged, "eternal" (aionios) in the New Testament means "belonging to the age to come" rather than expressing any directly chronological notion, the New Testament writers are unanimous in expecting the age to come to be unending, so the annihilationist's problem remains where it was. The assertion that in the age to come life is the sort of thing that goes on while punishment is the sort of thing that ends begs the question. Basil Atkinson, "an eccentric bachelor academic," according to Wenham,28 but a professional philologist, and mentor of Wenham and Stott in this matter, wrote:
When the adjective aionios meaning "everlasting" is used in Greek with nouns of action, it has reference to the result of that action, but not the process. Thus the phrase "everlasting punishment" is comparable to "everlasting redemption" and "everlasting salvation," both scriptural phrases . . . the lost will not be passing through a process of punishment forever but will be punished once and for all with eternal results.29
Though this assertion is constantly made by annihilationists, who otherwise could not get their position off the ground, it lacks support from grammarians and in any case begs the question by assuming that punishment is a momentary rather than a sustained event. While not, perhaps, absolutely impossible, the reasoning seems unnatural, evasive and, in the final assessment, forlorn.
2) The second argument is that once the idea of the intrinsic immortality of the soul (that is, of the conscious person) is set aside as a Platonic intrusion into second-century exegesis, it will appear that the only natural meaning of the New Testament imagery of death, destruction, fire and darkness as indicators of the destiny of unbelievers is that such persons cease to be. But this proves on inspection not to be so. For evangelicals, the analogy of Scripture, that is, the axiom of its inner coherence and consistency and power to elucidate its own teaching from within itself, is a controlling principle in all interpretation, and though there are texts which, taken in isolation, might carry annihilationist implications, there are others that cannot naturally be fitted into any form of this scheme. But no proposed theory of the Bible's meaning that does not cover all the Bible's relevant statements can be true.
Jude 6 and Matthew 8:12; 22:13; 25:30 show that darkness signifies a state of deprivation and distress, but not of destruction in the sense of ceasing to exist. Only those who exist can weep and gnash their teeth, as those banished into the darkness are said to do.
Nowhere in Scripture does death signify extinction; physical death is departure into another mode of being, called sheol or hades, and metaphorical death is existence that is God-less and graceless; nothing in biblical usage warrants the idea, found in Guillebaud30 and others, that the "second death" of Revelation 2:11; 20:14; 21:8 means or involves cessation of being.
Luke 16:22-24 shows that, as also in a good deal of extra-biblical apocalyptic, fire signifies continued existence in pain, and the chilling words of Revelation 14:10 with 19:20; 20:10 and of Matthew 13:42, 50 confirm this.
In 2 Thessalonians 1:9 Paul explains, or extends, the meaning of "punished with everlasting [eternal, aionios] destruction" by adding "and shut out from the presence of the Lord" — which phrase, by affirming exclusion, rules out the idea that "destruction" meant extinction. Only those who exist can be excluded. It has often been pointed out that in Greek the natural meaning of the destruction vocabulary (noun, olethros; verb, apollumi) is wrecking, so that what is destroyed is henceforth nonfunctional rather than annihilating it, so that it no longer exists in any form at all.
Annihilationists respond with special pleading. Sometimes they urge that such references to continued distress as have been quoted refer only to the temporary experience of the lost before they are extinguished, but this is to beg the question by speculative eisegesis and to give up the original claim that the New Testament imagery of eternal loss naturally implies extinction. Peterson quotes from John Stott's pages, which he calls "the best case for annihilationism,"31 the following comment on the words "And the smoke of their torment rises forever and ever" in Revelation 14:11:
The fire itself is termed "eternal" and "unquenchable", but it would be very odd if what is thrown into it proves indestructible. Our expectation would be the opposite: it would be consumed forever, not tormented forever. Hence it is the smoke (evidence that the fire has done its work) which "rises for ever and ever."
"On the contrary," Peterson replies, "our expectation would be that the smoke would die out once the fire had finished its work. . . . The rest of the verse confirms our interpretation: 'There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image."'32 There seems no answer to this.
So at every point the linguistic argument simply fails. To say that some texts, taken in isolation, might mean annihilation proves nothing when other texts evidently do not. We move on.
3) The third argument is that for God to visit punitive retribution endlessly on the lost would be disproportionate and unjust. Writes Stott: "I question whether 'eternal conscious torment' is compatible with the biblical revelation of divine justice, unless perhaps (as has been argued) the impenitence of the lost also continues throughout eternity."33 The uncertainty expressed in Stott's "perhaps" is strange, for there is no reason to think that the resurrection of the lost for judgment will change their character, and every reason therefore to suppose that their rebellion and impenitence will continue as long as they themselves do, making continued banishment from God's fellowship fully appropriate; but, leaving that aside, it is apparent that the argument, if valid, would prove too much, and end up undermining the annihilationist's own case.
For if, as the argument implies, it is needlessly cruel for God to keep the lost endlessly in being to suffer pain, because His justice does not require this, how can the annihilationists justify in terms of God's justice the fact that He makes them suffer any postmortem pain at all? Why would not justice, which on this view requires their annihilation in any case, not be satisfied by annihilation at death? Biblical annihilationists, who cannot evade the biblical expectation of the Final Resurrection to judgment of unbelievers along-side believers, admit that God does not do this, and some, as we have seen, admit too that there will be some pain inflicted after judgment and prior to extinction; but if God's justice requires no more than extinction, and therefore does not require this, the pain becomes needless cruelty, and God is thus in effect accused of the very fault of which annihilationists are anxious to prove Him innocent and to condemn the Christian mainstream for implying; while if God's justice really does require some penal pain in addition to annihilation, and continued hostility, rebellion, and impenitence Godward on the part of unbelievers remains a postmortem fact, there will be no moment at which it will be possible for either God or man to say that enough punishment has been inflicted, no more is deserved, and any more would be unjust. The argument thus boomerangs on its proponents, impaling them inescapably on the horns of this dilemma. Wiser was Basil Atkinson, who declares: "I have avoided . . . any argument about the final state of the lost based upon the character of God, which I should consider it to be irreverent to attempt to estimate."34 No doubt he foresaw the toils into which such argument leads.
4) The fourth argument is that the saints' joy in heaven would be marred by knowing that some continue under merited retribution. But this cannot be said of God, as if the expressing of His holiness in retribution hurts Him more than it hurts the offenders; and since in heaven Christians will be like God in character, loving what He loves and taking joy in all His self-manifestation, including the manifestation of His justice (in which indeed the saints in Scripture take joy already in this world), there is no reason to think that their eternal joy will be impaired in this way.35
It is distasteful to argue in print against honored fellow-evangelicals, some of whom are good friends and others of whom (I mention Atkinson, Wenham, and Hughes particularly) are now with Christ, so I stop right here. My purpose was only to review the debate and assess the strength of the arguments used, and that I have done. I am not sure that I agree with Peter Toon that "discussion as to whether hell means everlasting punishment or annihilation after judgment . . . is both a waste of time and an attempt to know what we cannot know,"36 but I am sure he is right to say that hell "is part of the whole gospel" and that "to warn people to avoid hell means that hell is a reality."37 All who settle for warning people to avoid hell can walk in fellowship in their ministry, and legitimately claim to be evangelicals. When John Stott urges that "the ultimate annihilation of the wicked should at least be accepted as a legitimate, biblically founded alternative to their eternal conscious torment,"38 he asks too much, for the biblical foundations of this view prove on inspection, as we have seen, to be inadequate. But it would be wrong for differences of opinion on this matter to lead to breaches of fellowship, though it would be a very happy thing for the Christian world if the differences could be resolved.
- The jeremiads of David Wells, No Place for Truth (Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1993), and Mark Noll, The Scandal of the Evangelical Mind (Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1994), tell only half the story. Granted that evangelical theology and worldview reflections have in some quarters and in some respects been beaten out of shape and fragmented, the energy that is currently being devoted to recovery here is remarkable.
- Details may be gleaned from LeRoy Edwin Froom, The Conditionalist Faith of Our Fathers (Washington, D. C.: Review and Herald, 2 vols., 1965-66), and from David J. Powys, "The Nineteenth and Twentieth Century Debates about Hell and Universalism," in Universalism (Paternoster Press, and Grand Rapids: Baker, 1992), 93-138.
- I stated this in "The Problem of Eternal Punishment," Crux XXVI.3, September 1990, 23. John Wenham challenged my statement on the grounds that evangelicals talked much about the matter in the second half of the nineteenth century, which he called "the heyday of conditionalism among evangelicals" (Universalism . . ., 181 and note 27). But conversation and conviction are not the same thing. Evidence for my assertion is found in the fact that three of what Robert A. Peterson lists as "the four best books espousing annihilationism" (Hell on Trial, Phillipsburg: Presbyterian & Reformed Publishing, 1995, 161-62), namely Harold E. Guillebaud, The Righteous Judge, privately printed, 1964; Basil F. C. Atkinson, Life and Immortality, privately printed, n. d., c. 1968; and Edward William Fudge, The Fire That Consumes, could not find a mainstream evangelical publisher.
- Christianity Today, March 20, 1987, 40-41. Pinnock expanded his line of thought in "The Destruction of the Finally Impenitent," Criswell Theological Review 4 (Spring 1990), 243-59.
- Houston: Providential Press, 1982. Fudge's book was noted and briefly answered by Robert A. Morey, Death and the Afterlife (Minneapolis: Bethany House, 1984), 124ff., 205. A revised and compressed edition, with Fudge's answers to critics, appeared in 1994 (Carlisle, United Kingdom: Paternoster Press).
- David L. Edwards and John Stott, Essentials (London: Hodder & Stoughton, 1988), 313-20.
- Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, and Leicester, United Kingdom: Inter-Varsity Press, 1989, 398-407.
- Kenneth Kantzer and Carl F. H. Henry, eds., Evangelical Essentials (Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 1990), 107-36.
- The line of thought was developed in the Crux article, note 3 above.
- Christianity Today, June 16, 1989, 60; 63.
- Ligonier, Pennsylvania: Soli Deo Gloria Publications, 1990.
- See note 2 above.
- Eastbourne, United Kingdom: Kingsway, 1991.
- Bridgend, United Kingdom: Evangelical Press of Wales, 1991.
- Wheaton: Bridgepoint Books (Victor Books), 1992.
- Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 1992.
- London: Hodder & Stoughton, 1992.
- Darlington, United Kingdom: Evangelical Press, 1993.
- Lanham, Maryland: United Press of America, 1995.
- See note 3 above.
- For a survey of views, see David J. Powys, "The Nineteenth & Twentieth Century Debates about Hell and Universalism," in Universalism . . ., 93-129.
- In addition to its modern evangelical exponents, conditionalism has had the support of a wide range of others from world Protestantism during the past 150 years. See B. B. Warfield, "Annihilationism," in his Works (Grand Rapids: Baker, 1981), ix., 447-57; Peter Toon, Heaven and Hell (Nashville: Thomas Nelson, 1986), 175-81; articles "Annihilationism" and "Conditional Immortality" in Evangelical Dictionary of Theology, Walter A. Elwell, ed., (Grand Rapids: Baker, 1984).
- Ibid., 199.
- Ibid., 200-201.
- "Savagery" is from Michael Green, Evangelism through the Local Church (London: Hodder & Stoughton, 1990); "sadism" is from J. W. Wenham, Universalism. . . , 187; the other two words are from Clark Pinnock, Criswell Theological Review 4 (1990), 246.
- Wenham, The Enigma of Evil (Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 1985), 37-38.
- Stott, Essentials, 315-16.
- Wenham, Universalism . . ., 162, note 3.
- Atkinson, Life and Immortality, 101.
- H. E. Guillebaud, The Righteous Judge, 14.
- Peterson, Hell on Trial, 162. Wenham describes Stott's pages as a "slight" treatment, Universalism . . ., 167. Peterson's judgment seems to me more discerning.
- Ibid., 168-69; quoting Stott, Essentials, 316.
- Ibid., 319.
- Ibid., iv.
- These sentences are mainly taken from Packer, art. cit., 23.
- Ibid., 201.
- Ibid., 250.
- Ibid., 320.
Dr. James I. Packer, formerly Professor of Theology at Regent College, Vancouver, since 1979, was a senior editor for Christianity Today and a busy teacher. He lectures widely, writes extensively, and is the distinguished author of numerous best-selling titles. He has contributed several times to Reformation & Revival Journal.
This article appeared in Reformation & Revival magazine, Volume 6, Number 2 - Spring 1997.
Wednesday, 20 August 2008
Operation 513 London: Leicester Square & Tooting Broadway (15th - 16th Aug 2008)
On Friday evening the team was back to preaching the gospel at Leicester Square. I was particularly excited as we were due some new faces. Andrew Noble had contacted me via the Operation 513 website, keen to join up with some people to go witnessing with. Ivan and Benjamin, two young men from Denmark, had been directed to the Operation 513 website through listening to Way of the Master Radio. This was their first time to England and even though they had come for a brief holiday they were dead set on coming out to evangelise with us. Arriving at Tooting Broadway around 8:30pm, I met up with Carl, Ivan and Benjamin, and the four of us hopped on the first tube we could get.We arrived at Leicester Square a little later than we would have liked, having missed our connection. We linked up with Andrew and my brother James and made our way over to one of our commonly used spots. It wasn’t until after 9:30pm that we had opened in prayer and were ready to start ministering. Earlier in the day I had bought a fold-up table from a D.I.Y. store. This little table folds up a real treat, which allows you to carry it very conveniently in a small bag. We placed a good number of tracts and Bibles on the table for people to take away free.
After I had come down from preaching the team set about speaking to people who had been listening. Carl and Andrew got into a conversation with some Muslims that had been listening whilst I preached; Ivan and Benjamin set about handing out tracts to as many people as they could and my brother got into some conversation as well. I managed to get into a number of one-to-one conversations. I spoke with a man from Italy, who had been brought up Catholic. He held the belief that the Bible is not the final authority and that there is latitude to believe whatever you want to believe when it comes to spiritual things. Our conversation was quite brief and so I did not get much of a chance to speak to him in depth. He did, however, take an in-depth gospel tract. It struck me that I have yet to meet a person, who having grown up Catholic, is of the mind that the Bible is the inspired, infallible, inerrant Word of God. The next people I got to speak with were two young Muslim guys. I was able to share the whole counsel of God with them and take contact details so that I can contact them again. They in turn took my contact details. We had a good chat and I was grateful that they listened to what I had to say without throwing up a wall.
By the time it was ready to go only a few Bibles were left. Many of the tracts had gone too. I was careful to hand out Why Christianity? tracts to the Muslims I spoke with, as they are very good at showing why Christianity offers what no other religion can offer. They show that Christianity is the answer. It was a great night and we were all quite encouraged by the time we left. Andrew said that he would be back next week and the Danish lads were beaming too!
Carl and Andrew witness to some Muslim men...
James witnesses to some young men...
Saturday morning came around and we were back at Tooting Broadway. We arrived at 11:30am. The first thing I noticed is that there were some people standing where we normally stand, handing out some literature. At first I thought they might be Christians but when I approached them I discovered they were in fact Jehovah Witnesses! I wanted to get up and preach as quickly as possible so that they would hear the gospel, however as we were setting up they left. It was interesting that the literature they had was in Tamul, which is an Indian language. Tooting Broadway does have many Indian people so I can only think it was done for that reason.
Watchtower magazines in Tamul. Incredible.


I spent some time preaching the gospel open air. As is normal with Tooting Broadway I did not get much of a crowd, however, people would have heard the gospel as they were passing and we also managed to hand out many tracts to people as well. Ivan and Benjamin joined us for a second time and Phil was with us too. As we were all handing out tracts, etc, I got the opportunity to speak with Assad and his friends.
Here is the audio of that conversation.
As you will discover Assad is a Muslim, as were the majority of his friends. There were I think five of them in total. It seems that I cannot avoid speaking with Muslims these days; they certainly are popping up wherever I go! The more I speak with them the more I learn what I should be saying and the more my desire increases to see them saved. Islam certainly is on the rise and so we need to be about the business of reaching out to them in love with the truth of the Gospel.
Praise God for a great weekend of ministry. It was an encouraging time.
Soli Deo Gloria!
Saturday, 16 August 2008
Does The Truth Matter Anymore?
Friday, 15 August 2008
Thursday, 14 August 2008
Chinese Pastor Arrested For Preaching The Gospel
Inspiration for Olympic Prayer Band Arrested | |
Pastor Zhang “Bike” Mingxuan, known for traveling across China on a bicycle to evangelize, was arrested by Chinese police just two days before the Olympics began. Pastor Bike was the inspiration for the recent partnership between The Voice of the Martyrs and China Aid Association to create the Olympic Prayer Band. Learn More about the Olympic Prayer Band here Pastor Asks for Prayer Band Thanks to Pastor Bike’s inspiration and the commitment of concerned Christians across the United States, more than 800,000 prayer bands have been circulated. On Aug. 6, Pastor Bike was arrested while trying to deliver medicine to his ailing wife. His wife and another pastor were also arrested. We have also learned this week that Chinese officials are opening a full investigation of the Olympic Prayer Bands that were distributed to house church members within China. Despite this increased pressure from Chinese authorities, Chinese Christians continue to ask for prayer and to make their plight known. Order your Prayer Bands today! More about Pastor Bike | |
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Tuesday, 12 August 2008
Judas Was a Preacher
Judas was a preacher; nay, he was a foremost preacher, “he obtained part of this ministry,” said the Apostle Peter. He was not simply one of the seventy; he had been selected by the Lord himself as one of the twelve, an honourable member of the college of the apostles. Doubtless he had preached the gospel so that many had been gladdened by his voice, and miraculous powers had been vouchsafed to him, so that at his word the sick had been healed, deaf ears had been opened; and the blind had been made to see; nay, there is no doubt that he who could not keep the devil out of himself, had cast devils out of others. Yet how are you fallen from Heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! He that was as a prophet in the midst of the people, and spake with the tongue of the learned, whose word and wonders proved that he had been with Jesus and had learned of him — he betrays his Master. Understand, my brethren, that no gifts can ensure grace, and that no position of honour or usefulness in the Church will necessarily prove our being true to our Lord and Master. Doubtless there are bishops in Hell, and crowds of those who once occupied the pulpit are now condemned for ever to bewail their hypocrisy. You that are Church-officers, do not conclude that because you enjoy the confidence of the Church, that therefore of an absolute certainty the grace of God is in you. Perhaps it is the most dangerous of all positions for a man to become well known and much respected by the religious world, and yet to be rotten at the core. To be where others can observe our faults is a healthy thing though painful; but to live with beloved friends who would not believe it possible for us to do wrong, and who if they saw us err would make excuses for us — this is to be where it is next to impossible for us ever to be aroused if our hearts be not right with God. To have a fair reputation and a false heart is to stand upon the brink of Hell.- C.H. Spurgeon


